Palin Debate Flow Chart
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That about summarizes my feelings about the debate; she did about how I expected her to, spewing talking points without regard for coherency, accuracy, or relevance to the actual question. That'll do fine with her base, but I doubt it did much for many of the actual swing voters still in play (and the post-debate polls are backing that up). Although polls show that impressions of her improved some from this performance, that's not surprising, and it's really not the same as winning, by a long shot (the polls I've seen show impressions of Biden improving more). It just means that people had such phenomenally low opinions of her before the debate that managing not to fail spectacularly was more than they were expecting.
Despite his policies on the drug war, and on a couple of economics-related votes in the past, I really do love Biden. My big worry was that he was going to swallow his foot at some point and give up points, and I don't think he did, so I was happy with how it all turned out.
I think the debate showed her for exactly what she is, and I don't think that many of the swing voters left are so pathologically oblivious that they wouldn't notice her total lack of content, or her attempts to manipulate her audience.
I'd really been looking forward to Gwen Ifill moderating, and I have to say I was disappointed there, though. I didn't want Biden to get more aggressive, but I sure wanted Ifill to. I'm not sure why she didn't do more to make both of them (although especially Palin) actually answer the questions they were asked.
That about summarizes my feelings about the debate; she did about how I expected her to, spewing talking points without regard for coherency, accuracy, or relevance to the actual question. That'll do fine with her base, but I doubt it did much for many of the actual swing voters still in play (and the post-debate polls are backing that up). Although polls show that impressions of her improved some from this performance, that's not surprising, and it's really not the same as winning, by a long shot (the polls I've seen show impressions of Biden improving more). It just means that people had such phenomenally low opinions of her before the debate that managing not to fail spectacularly was more than they were expecting.
Despite his policies on the drug war, and on a couple of economics-related votes in the past, I really do love Biden. My big worry was that he was going to swallow his foot at some point and give up points, and I don't think he did, so I was happy with how it all turned out.
I think the debate showed her for exactly what she is, and I don't think that many of the swing voters left are so pathologically oblivious that they wouldn't notice her total lack of content, or her attempts to manipulate her audience.
I'd really been looking forward to Gwen Ifill moderating, and I have to say I was disappointed there, though. I didn't want Biden to get more aggressive, but I sure wanted Ifill to. I'm not sure why she didn't do more to make both of them (although especially Palin) actually answer the questions they were asked.
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Date: 2008-10-03 11:38 pm (UTC)What I'm REALLY looking forward to is this week's Washington Week. I've never heard her have to discuss herself as part of the news.
Of all the news shows I listen to (and I listen to entirely too many) hers is really my favorite. I really like that she never crosses the line on one side or the other like some of my other favs who are admittedly in the tank for the left. And I also like that she came on Meet The Press and called out Tim Russert on the whole Imus and Race thing.
It would've been a lot more fun if they had just let Tina Fey play her for the debate.
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Date: 2008-10-06 06:47 pm (UTC)Oh, I definitely agree.
What I'm REALLY looking forward to is this week's Washington Week. I've never heard her have to discuss herself as part of the news.
How'd that go? I'm deeply curious...
I really like that she never crosses the line on one side or the other like some of my other favs who are admittedly in the tank for the left.
*nod* I don't want her to be a Olbermann or a Maddow, definitely.
It would've been a lot more fun if they had just let Tina Fey play her for the debate.
*snerk* Probably would've improved her poll numbers. I know I'd be happier electing Tina Fey than Sarah Palin.
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Date: 2008-10-06 07:09 pm (UTC)She talked about it a little more as part of the Meet The Press Panel. Her outlook there was she was sticking to the rules and her job was to be a moderator. The candidates were the show, she was just the referee if something got out of hand.
More than Olbermann or Maddow or some of the other partisan voices, Washington Week under Ifil also doesn't feature partisan guests. Meet The Press and This Week with George Stephanopolous both shoot for being non-partisan but if your guests are McCain one week and Obama the next or Paul Begala and Mike Murphy or Mitt Romney and Ed Rendell, you're always hearing sharply partisan voices and no matter how much the moderator tries to keep it balanced it's impossible. Some issues have sides that don't have equal weight, if you're informed you perceive bias against your own side more than against the other etc.
Washington Week has Journalists on who all are trying to be neutral and no "pundits". Didn't that used to be the norm at one point? Or at least the goal? Oh she also mentioned that being portrayed by Queen Latifah was very cool.
I would totally vote for any ticket that had Tina Fey on it. She's dreamy and a brilliant writer and funny. *sigh* hehe
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Date: 2008-10-03 11:58 pm (UTC)