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So, thinking a lot about the complementary tattoo on my other side. Last one took two years of research before we started tattooing. Although the internet's made everything faster to search since then (oh, I wish I'd had image search back then!), I still want a good head start to let ideas percolate, and for the images I connect with best to emerge.

I was brainstorming with Becca about some images to research, and we came up with the following list (this was mostly me thinking about where to find images of large men, something it's really important to me to include). The limitations: I'm trying to cover the widest array of cultures and time periods possible. The image must be able to be represented as a sculpture. Nude or mostly-nude. Entirely human, no anthropomorphized animal imagery, wings, claws, hooves, horns, etc. Representing a wide array of different body types and shapes. Pieces that fit the overall water-colorish, sketchy kind of style we're using (too much detail, or too perfectly representational, and it doesn't work for this piece). Here are the notes from our brainstorming of ideas to research:

> Sumo wrestlers
> Japanese Luck God Ho-Tei (sometimes called laughing buddha)
> Oni (Japanese) (so far doesn't look like this one will work -- face doesn't fit tattoo)
> Frank Lloyd Wright pedastal topper
> bear gods
> Polynesian statues?
> Babylonians
> Assyrian
> extrapolate painting to sculpture (bacchus)

The first two pieces that grabbed my attention on a quick search:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/grandadbill/2481623099/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/catchesthelight/1321885834/
(both are worksafe sculptures of sumo wrestlers)

And _that_ is why my brothers are going to be so amused; they both follow Sumo closely, and have for years.

If you happen to have brainstorming ideas to add to the mix, please do. Even if it's not quite what I'm looking for, it may give me new search ideas and avenues.

I'm also interested in finding transgender images, so if you've got ideas for those, toss them in too...



http://www.flickr.com/photos/82509471@N00/2880530207/
http://flann4.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/statue.jpg
http://www.vub.ac.be/BIBLIO/nieuwenhuysen/african-art/african-statue-male-wood-front.jpg
http://www.lindsayfincher.com/gallery/d/10334-2/arm_yerevan_cascade_14_statue.jpg
http://www.paleolithicartmagazine.org/
http://www.vub.ac.be/BIBLIO/nieuwenhuysen/african-art/african-art-collection-statues.htm
http://www.mesoweb.com/features/jpl/07.html
http://recollections.nma.gov.au/issues/vol_2_no2/papers/cluttering_up_the_department/
http://www.mesoweb.com/features/jpl/40.html
http://tebtunis.berkeley.edu/rw/han_ex1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/art3/tinghualiu/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/149315685_82ea1fd028.jpg
http://www.lesantiquitesmaison.com/index.php?cPath=107
http://sorrel.humboldt.edu/~rwj1/AFR/africa_nigeria_nok4.jpg
http://www.greece-athens.com/pages_images/9.jpg
http://i14.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/ag/71/54b2_1_sbol.JPG
http://www.greecetravel.com/archaeology/mitsopoulou/zulu/photos4.htm
http://www.quaibranly.fr/uploads/tx_fepromenadealacartet3/Ymago_3923_01.jpg
http://www.africanantiquecollection.com/images/top/top/album/slides/Bembe%20ivory%20male%20statue.jpg
http://www.africanantiquecollection.com/images/top/top/album/index.html
http://www.pataka.org.nz/uploads/60548/images/h_AUGUST/Male-statue-e01.jpg
http://www.historywiz.com/images/greece/kourosthera.jpg
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/kislak/images/statue.jpg
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1746/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1746-1032.jpg
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1158/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1158-2687.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/u/eddy2099/large/313759.Mvc473x.jpg
http://www.lithiccastinglab.com/images/etowahmalefrontsunsmall.jpg
http://www.beyond-the-pale.org.uk/sheela2.htm
http://image02.webshots.com/2/3/97/15/50939715SwjdoX_fs.jpg
http://www.theebonytree.com/Images/BigIconPics/statue4BIP.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/Senufo-Male-Rhythm-Pounder-Figure-Old-African-Statue_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ120282354658

Date: 2009-06-26 11:16 pm (UTC)
ext_267: Photo of DougS, who has a round face with thinning hair and a short beard (Default)
From: [identity profile] dougs.livejournal.com
You may want to look out Rugby players or American Football players -- and while you're looking for sportsmen, you might want to look at tug-of-war.

Date: 2009-06-26 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jajy1979.livejournal.com
With the exception of certain positions, most football players tend to be lean once you get them out of pads. She'd have to look specifically for the big linesmen. Or the Fridge.

Still, there's also some greek style wrestlers over the years who have been famous physically large men. Likewise some of the giant power lifters. You can find either in various incarnations throughout history in various states of undress.

Date: 2009-06-26 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jajy1979.livejournal.com
Akebono was an American Sumo Wrestler.

I know you're not aiming for fictional, but it's too good not to consider... the woses or pukel men from dunharrow in Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. There were some great art pieces depiciting the stone forms of them along the road in my collection. I wonder if anyone has ever done a physical sculpture of them.

http://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/6/64/Ted_Nasmith_-_The_Aid_of_the_Wild-men.jpg

http://www.tuckborough.net/images/pukelman.jpg

http://www.john-howe.com/portfolio/gallery/data/media/21/sketchesPUKEL-MEN.jpg

Date: 2009-06-26 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jajy1979.livejournal.com
Slavic Pagan Statue 1

Slavic Pagan Statue 2

A little more modern

With llights?

Another 'fat man'

<"http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Lp1kEv_nnd4/RtHIzcf2efI/AAAAAAAAADM/ASbUIQC1RXI/IMG_0110.JPG">I wish I knew where the person took this picture so I could get a better image of the statue

And any number of works by Fernando Botero.



Date: 2009-06-26 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Thanks! Exactly the kind of stuff I'm looking for!

Date: 2009-06-26 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jajy1979.livejournal.com
I really like the imagry of that last one, though the second to the last might be very doable as a piece to fill areas between more oddly shaped pieces.

Date: 2009-06-27 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danibearess.livejournal.com
.
I'd be curious to see what kind bear gods/goddesses you come up with.

Date: 2009-06-28 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
You should check out Artio

I don't think I'll find any I can actually use, since I'm not doing human/animal mixtures, and I don't think I'll find any that aren't, on some level. Frustrating thing about trying to stick to a central concept...

it aint a bear but...

Date: 2009-06-27 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calebbullen.livejournal.com
Might want to look at Tanuki statues. You know, like from the Tom RObbins book. http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/tanuki.shtml The big bellies and ginormous scrotums wouldn't look at all out of place.

Re: Becca found:

Date: 2009-06-28 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jajy1979.livejournal.com
What ever happened to the guy in the barrel we got you? The one with the spring loaded penis?

Re: Becca found:

Date: 2009-06-30 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Normally he's up with my decorations, although they're all packed now.

Nauczyciela. uchodzic Przestancie.

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